Social Media Monitoring, Measurement and SocialCRM – A Business Perspective

Are We Listening Up The Wrong Tree?

July 15th, 2010 • Author: Maria Ogneva • 9 Comments

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Social Media Listening

I love social media, and I love making sense of things. It was only natural that I was trying to monitor and make sense of the social web even before I got hired by the company formerly known as Biz360. Needless to say, now I can monitor a lot more sources and find a lot more things, and even prioritize them, using the Attensity360 platform, which makes both parts of me happy: the social media part and the dorky analytical part. Because it’s such a huge part of my life, I take monitoring for granted, as do a lot of folks in social media, technology, marketing and other related areas. Whether or not we use or even make monitoring platforms (and here’s an awesome wiki of monitoring platforms created by Ken Burbary, by the way), we expect that monitoring is simply a way of life. Every once in a while, I come across a contrarian viewpoint (while monitoring social media of course), which fascinates me and reminds me that the way of life in our social media ecosystem is not necessarily the way of life all over the world. After all, it’s the contrarian viewpoints that challenge the status quo and make us grow (wow, that almost rhymed :) , while helping us refine and strengthen our own thinking.

The post that sparked the idea for this blogpost was written by Karl Harvard of EConsultancy a couple of days ago. Harvard takes a view that as social media becomes more and more mainstream, the everyday consumer who doesn’t want to be eavesdropped on, will get turned off more and more by the fact that brands are listening, analyzing, and sometimes engaging with her directly. He posits that as a consequence, “brand consumer trust will diminish”. Moreover, he states that organizations won’t want to track social media anymore because the time, effort and resources associated with listening and responding online buzz. Both are valid points, and I’d love to share my views on them.

Before diving in, it’s important to delineate three different processes at play here: listening, analysis, and action. First off, the notion of people getting turned off by brands listening has some gravitas, but it’s not as black and white as that. The most important thing at play here is the intent and the business goal — how the business uses information gathered through listening. Secondly, deep analysis on a very large scale is going to be necessary to address the issue of scale that Harvard refers to. As volume increases, you need to be able to process and analyze social media mentions en masse, and need a solution to do that (this is where unstructured text analytics like ours come in handy). This is the science of social media; action is the art.

The end goal of listening and social media analysis is always action. Some actions are explicit, like reaching out to people and participating in conversations, and responding to queries and complaints. Some actions are more implicit, like analyzing information in aggregate to help drive better product decisions. It’s not the act of listening, but rather what you do with the information, that can potentially backfire.

  • For example, if you are in fact collecting feedback to improve the customer experience, that’s a worthwhile undertaking, and I see nothing wrong with it. By the way, this feedback *is* given by customers in the open public forum, so I believe it’s fair game, but that really opens up a whole different conversation, which is appropriate for its own blogpost. A social customer myself, I often provide my unprompted advice (sometimes a rant, and sometimes a compliment), and I do hope that brands are listening and making my feedback part of their product. This is where analysis comes in handy, which helps you identify top drivers of the brand conversation (ex: product is hard to use, too expensive, etc.).
  • Engagement is also a type of action you take, but unlike learning and building upon the knowledge, you are actually responding back to the person that said that trigger word you are monitoring. Now THIS is where things have the potential to get creepy. Just like in person, you shouldn’t join every conversation, and the same applies online. Here’s one of my favorite quotes on the subject (and I apologize that I can’t attribute, as I can not remember who said it and where): “Every social media conversation is a potential conversation you could be in, but it doesn’t mean that you need to be in every conversation.” Brilliant, and nothing more to add to this.
  • To make matters more complicated, there are different types of engagement. This is where intent and business goal matter, as we discussed above. If you are responding to a question, query, compliment or some kind of confusion around the product, then you are given a bit more leeway, as the customer is talking about you (or to you) directly. If you are helping at the point of need, there’s nothing wrong with that. Service is one of the key tenets in brand involvement in social media, and the social customer is probably expecting or at least hoping that someone is will help. On the opposite end of the spectrum is engaging so you can promote your brand. This by itself merits its own post, because this is where we are getting into the art of social media. SPAMming someone with your message just because he / she uttered a keyword you are tracking is never OK. However, establishing contact and becoming a helpful resource to someone checking out your category of product is more acceptable. There’s a thin line between the two, and these nuances need to be navigated carefully. When in doubt, just ask yourself if you would do the equivalent offline. Just like you wouldn’t walk into a social gathering and start selling your product right away, you wouldn’t start tweeting the same off the bat. Above all, listen and think before you speak. You need permission to share your message (note the difference between sharing and shoving down someone’s throat), and you have to earn that permission first.

In some ways, we are still in the uncharted territory here. What do you think of social media monitoring in regards to citizens’ response to it? Is it creepy? Or does it help us work better together? What do you think as a business? Now, put your customer hat on and tell us what you think. Is your feeling different or the same? The comments are yours!

Photo credit Florian Seroussi

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"Are We Listening Up The Wrong Tree?" was published on July 15th, 2010.

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  1. Wim Rampen wrote,

    Hi Maria,

    In general I think Customers want you to listen, or at least they want you to do something with the feedback they provide. They probably even want you to thank them for the feedback and let them know what you’ll do or did with it.. at best through actions (because they count more than just words).

    Does this mean it needs to be through personal engagement on every (social media) mention? Surely not… Of course, if we get a mention on our Twitter-team we answer.. but having a Twitter-team, does hardly make you a true listener. It’s really nothing more than a modern call-center, and it won’t be long until it gets treated that way by companies..

    As you rightfully say, we are still in unchartered territory, although we do have common sense and social sensibility to guide us. I think this requires us to listen from the logic of service, not the logic of sales or transactions. And this implies that our actions should be aimed at service too (and I’m not talking the narrow sort of Customer Services here..the context of service is broader)..

    The real challenge with Social Media monitoring lies not only in when to engage or not, and also not in analyzing all the data (people like yourself, helped by smart tools, will get better and better at that for sure).. The real challenge is about who do we listen to? Is it even Customers talking? Do we listen to influencers? or people easily influenced? Are we listing to profitable, or emergent customers, fans, advocates, superpromoters etc etc.. Who we need to listen to, will likely be different depending on the job you need to do, no? And what if they’re not talking on Social Media (yes they exist.. many of them)?

    Listening to and mostly engaging with all the chatter on the Internet, might just become the most wasteful activity pr, marketing, sales and service have ever participated in, if we do not learn how to focus on the right customers, having the right conversations.. and through the right channels..for the right job..

    So much to learn, and glad there are people like you out there learning and sharing.

    Let me know what you think..

    Great post! Thx

    Wim

  2. Maria Ogneva wrote,

    Hi there Wim!

    Thanks for stopping by. I always get tickled when folks whom I love to read, share their thoughts on conversations I hope to start :)

    I agree that customers do want to listen when it comes to feedback, and I was trying to elucidate that in this post. I think the key issue here is what you do after the listening. Creepy and spammy behaviors can quickly give all of us social media folks a bad name. So this was more of a cautionary tale more than anything.

    I couldn’t agree more that listening is more than just monitoring and truly making it part of the culture, where you are letting go of control and allowing customers to impact your business more directly. I think the better word here is “hearing” – there’s a big difference between listening and hearing. Ooooh, I should probably write a blogpost about social media listening vs. social media hearing. Do you really empathize? Can you take yourself outside of your company bubble and put yourself in the shoes of the customer? What is she really saying? Or not saying? And right on with the service-orientation. But that’s really hard. Many co’s say they are customer and service oriented, but that’s not what I’m seeing as a customer. It requires a BIG cultural shift to BE that way.

    And to the meat of your point – which customer are you listening to? I like Paul Greenberg’s definition that the customer is not just who gives you money today, it’s anyone who was your customer in the past, or could be a customer in the future, or an influencer of your customers. When listening for my job (and I monitor terms like “social media monitoring”, “scrm”, etc) – I listen to folks who aren’t necessarily gonna buy Attensity products, but who are influencers (gosh, I hate that word!) and thought leaders. What are they saying about the space? Can I read between the lines? Of course, I listen to customers and past customers (why did they leave?), as well as customers of our competitors (what works and doesn’t). Yes, definitely need to identify the right jobs and channels. Also, what your goals are is going to drive what you listen to. For example, our salespeople listen to different triggers and measure different indicators than I would – it helps them in their jobs. But at the end of the day, we have to work together to share this info, and more importantly act together, unified by the vision of an unforgettable user experience.

    Also being able to prioritize and structure the unstructured is key. And how you prioritize is also going to be driven by the job you have to do. Tying it all together is very very hard, and you are right — there’s a ton of offline feedback too. How do you capture the offline and the online and emerge with a process? How do you design a feedback loop? Lots of work to do! I could ramble on forever – but I’ll stop for now :)

    Cheers!

    - Maria

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  8. wimrampen wrote,

    RT @themaria: My post over on the @attensity blog: Are We Listening Up The Wrong Tree? http://bit.ly/aFyUoY – my comment is in moderation ;)

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